Debunking the ’9/11 Debunkers’ With Stewart Bradley
by John-Michael Talboo
Debunking the Debunkers
John-Michael Talboo (JMT)-Q:
by Donna Marsh O’Connor
Wednesday 12 November 2008
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
A Truthout Original article
In September 2006, Michele Little (not pictured), Christina Kminek (L) and
Donna Marsh O’Connor (R) – three relatives of 9/11 victims – held a press conference
to demand further investigation into the September 11 attacks. (Photo: Alex
Wong / Getty Images)
This is a memoir of sorts, the kind that many of us in America are telling
days after the election of Barack Obama, who is soon, we all hope soon enough,
to be the 44th president of the United States of America. We’re not used to
this of late, this being the emergence of our stories, our narratives, each
one jubilant, provoked to the page and the air waves by our tears, for many
of us our tears of joy and relief, tears of disbelief. We, many of us, have
awakened from a nightmare. And that nightmare, for each of us, is different.
For me, the nightmare only partly ends. I’ve told this story many times before.
On 9/11/2001, in many ways the counter narrative to 11/4/2008, I lost my daughter
– my baby girl and my first child – along with the broken promise of a first
grandchild as Vanessa ran from the falling towers of the World Trade Center.
For many who have read my essays written in the years following the attacks,
this is an old story. I’ve said many times in many different… Continue reading
How NORAD Radar Operators Identified Aircraft Flying Over American Airspace on 9/11 And Its Implications For The Official 9/11 Narrative
September 10, 2008
by Dean Jackson
To say that communication between civilian Air Traffic Control (ATC) and NORAD was abysmal on the morning of September 11, 2001 would be a massive understatement. As an illustration, it took ATC twenty-three minutes to communicate to NORAD that American Airlines Flight 11 had been hijacked,1 and in the case of United Airlines Flight 175, ATC informed NORAD of that flight’s odyssey through northeast skies at 09:03, the same minute as Flight 175 impacted Two World Trade Center!2
Communication between ATC and NORAD in regards to the last two flights hijacked–American Airlines Flight 77 and United Airlines Flight 93–fared worse. In these two cases NORAD wasn’t officially informed of any troubles with those flights until after they had crashed!3 In the case of Flight 77, that flight began deviating from its flight plan at 08:54,4 but NEADS wasn’t informed about Flight 77 until 09:34 when NEADS just happened to be in contact with a Washington Center manager discussing what turned out to be a “phantom” Flight 11 heading south towards Washingon, D.C. During the conversation NEADS was matter-of-factly informed that Flight 77 was also lost. This was the first indication that NORAD had of Flight 77′s troubles … via a chance utterance by Washington Center!5
In the official 9/11 narrative NORAD is always on the receiving side when it… Continue reading
By Matt Taibbi and David Ray Griffin
October 6, 2008
A poll of 17 countries that came out September of this year revealed that majorities in only nine of them “believe that al Qaeda was behind the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the United States.” A Zogby poll from 2006 found that in America, 42% of respondents believed the US government and 9/11 Commission “covered up” the events of 9/11. It’s safe to say that at least tens of millions of Americans don’t believe anything close to the official account offered by the 9/11 Commission, and that much of the outside world remains skeptical.
Over the years, AlterNet has run dozens of stories , mostly critical, of the 9/11 Movement. Matt Taibbi has taken on the 9/11 Truth Movement head on in a series of articles, and most recently in his new book, The Great Derangement .
In April, I asked Taibbi if he would be interested in interviewing David Ray Griffin, a leading member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth & Justice , Emeritus Professor of Philosophy of Religion and Theology at Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Graduate University and author of seven of books on 9/11 , about his recent book, 9/11 Contradictions . After months of back and forths between them and some editorial delays, I’m pleased to share their written exchange — all 24,000 words of it. What we have here are the preeminent writers on both sides of the 9/11 Truth argument; a one-of-a-kind debate.… Continue reading
By Tod Fletcher
September 11, 2008
In THE NEW PEARL HARBOR REVISITED , David Ray Griffin provides a brilliant and much-needed companion to his path-breaking and movement-building book on 9/11, The New Pearl Harbor (NPH; 2004). Now, on the occasion of the seventh anniversary of those horrific events, Griffin surveys in detail all the main lines of evidence against the official account of 9/11 to have emerged during the last four years. THE NEW PEARL HARBOR REVISITED (NPHR) has been designed as volume 2 of a two-volume set with NPH as volume 1; together they provide a thorough and up-to-date case against the official conspiracy theory (they can be bought separately, of course).
Griffin has already published four other books that provide in-depth analysis of most of the evidence to have emerged since 2004. NPHR’s main purpose is to provide an easily accessible survey of all of the new evidence, so that it is now possible for a beginner to the subject (including journalists and members of Congress) to master its enormous complexity simply by reading two books. NPHR is structured identically to NPH; each chapter in NPHR comments and builds on the corresponding chapter in NPH. Much of the content is entirely new; there are many facts and analyses in NPHR which Griffin presents for the first time, and which literally make the book an up-to-the-minute statement of the case.
In the Preface, Griffin explains why he undertook to “update” The New Pearl Harbor . In the Introduction he… Continue reading
Charles E. Lewis
Although I was no longer employed at LAX on September 11, 2001, I had worked
there until about two months before as the Quality Control Manager for Kiewit
Pacific Construction on the Taxiway “C” project. A large part of
my work involved security in the Air Port Operations, or APO (but now called
the “Airport Operations Area,” or “AOA”), which is where
the planes are. On the morning of September 11, 2001, I listened with great
interest to LAX Security officials in the APO discussing the attacks and trying
to get more information.
“LAX Security” involves the Los Angeles World Airport Police Department,
the Los Angeles Police Department, and sometimes the FBI and/or the California
Highway Patrol. I can, incidentally, testify that LAX Security performed very
professionally on 9/11. Despite extreme pressure, confusion, and fear (they
had received information that LAX was a target), they executed the emergency
After describing what I heard while listening to LAX Security, I will suggest
ways in which my account could be corroborated.
On the morning of 9/11, I was working as Deputy Inspector representing the
City of LA Building and Safety Department for the seismic retrofit of the LA
Hilton Towers Hotel, only a few minutes by car from where I had worked at LAX.
When I realized, after the second strike on the WTC, that the country was under
attack, I decided that I should go to the APO, because I was one of only a few
persons who would know how to fix certain parts of the new security systems
if problems developed.…
BY DEAN M. JACKSON
The NORAD Papers
June 4, 2008
Testifying before the 9/11 Commission General Richard Myers, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the commission in response to a question on NORAD’s failure to anticipate the 9/11 attacks, “I can’t answer the hypothetical. It’s more – it’s the way that we were directed to posture, looking outward.”(1) This is utterly false. As we will see below NORAD, since its inception in 1958, was tasked to monitor and intercept aircraft flying over American and Canadian air space seven days a week, 24 hours a day.
Members of the 9/11 Truth Movement found General Myers’ testimony on the capabilities of NORAD on 9/11 to be surprising, since it was long assumed that NORAD’s mission was more than “looking outward”. However, the 9/11 Truth Movement has been negligent in producing any documents that would confirm their suspicion that NORAD was tasked with watching over and intercepting errant aircraft in American skies before 9/11; that NORAD’s mission was more robust than “looking outward”. The following pre-9/11 citations conclusively documents the true capabilities of NORAD on the morning of 9/11.
The article NORAD: Air National Guard manning stations across the country (National Guard Association of the United States, Sep. 1997) explains how NORAD’s six battle management and command centers identify commercial aircraft as these aircraft are being monitored flying through our air space, “Aircraft flying over our air space are monitored seven days a week, 24 hours a… Continue reading
August 15, 2008
You may have noticed that lately I’ve been making movies that “force” people to go to www.historycommons.org (www.cooperativeresearch.org). I’m hoping people will see just how important a tool it can be.
Please support www.historycommons.org. They have been invaluable to me, and hopefully will be for you as well.
By Kathy Sanborn
13/08/08 “ICH” — – Sanborn: When I read your article, “Marching
Off Into Tyranny,” I was impressed by how you were able to concisely sum
up one of the most important issues that we face as Americans, namely, the erosion
of our civil liberties, mostly due to fabricated terrorism such as the anthrax
scare and the attacks on 9/11. You talk about the Florida university professor,
Al-Arian, who continues to be victimized by the Feds although a jury has cleared
him of any terrorism charges. [As of August 8, 2008, the Associated Press states,
"U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema postponed the trial indefinitely,
questioning whether the government was overeager in filing charges." –KS]
What was your wake-up call, Dr. Roberts, to the fact that the current administration
was determined to take away the civil liberties of Americans?
Roberts: When they responded to 9/11 with the Patriot Act. That document was
thick, and it would have taken months and months to prepare it, yet it came
out shortly after the 9/11 attacks.
Why does combating terrorism require an assault on the Constitution and the
Bill of Rights? It was clear to me that there was an undeclared agenda there.
On the day of 9/11, I knew right away that something was wrong. I had been
an engineering student at Georgia Tech, and things just didn’t add up.
As I watched the towers fall, I could see that the buildings were blowing up
from the top, at least initially.… Continue reading
By Paul Craig Roberts
August 5, 2008
In last weekend’s edition of CounterPunch,
Alexander Cockburn updates the ongoing persecution of Sami Al-Arian by federal
prosecutors. Al-Arian was a Florida university professor of computer science
who was ensnared by the Bush Regime’s need to produce “terrorists”
in order to keep Americans fearful and, thereby, amenable to the Bush Regime’s
assault on US civil liberties.
The charges against Al-Arian were rejected by a jury, but the Bush Regime could
not accept the obvious defeat. If Al-Arian was not a terrorist, then other of
the Bush Regime’s fabricated cases might fall apart, too.
In open view, the US Department of Justice (sic) proceeded to trash every known
ethical rule of prosecution. I don’t need to repeat the facts, as they
are covered by Cockburn’s articles and in The Tyranny of Good Intentions.
Instead, I want to point out another meaning of the Al-Arian case. The Justice
(sic) Department itself knows that it is persecuting a totally innocent person
for reasons of a political agenda–the need to convince gullible Americans of
an ongoing terrorist threat. The existence of this threat is used to justify
the Bush Regime’s adoption of police state measures, such as spying on
Americans without warrants, arresting them without charges, and refusing to
let go of them when they are cleared by juries.
Sami Al-Arian is a fabricated terrorist created by federal prosecutors and
judges in behalf of an undeclared agenda. The Al-Arian case proves that terrorists
are in short… Continue reading
Press Conference with Sen. Mike Gravel and reception to follow (see below) St. Marks Church, 2nd Ave. & 10th Street, New York City Tues. June 17th, 5pm
Senator Mike Gravel Calls for New Investigation of 9/11, Supports NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative
(New York, NY, June 13, 2008) — On Tuesday, June 17th at 5pm, at Union Square in New York City, former Senator Mike Gravel, speaking on behalf of the NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative Campaign, will call for a new and far reaching investigation of the crimes of 9/11. This comes in the wake of several developments which underscore the need for a truly independent, thorough, fact-driven investigation into the events of 9/11. Consider the recent book by NY Times veteran reporter Philip Shenon titled ?The Commission: The Uncensored History of the 9/11 Investigation? which highlighted the conflicts of interest of Executive Director Philip Zelikow. Consider the book by Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton titled ?Unprecedented? in which they stated they were “doomed to fail from the start” and they were lied to by NORAD regarding our absence of air defense. Consider the Articles of Impeachment nos. 33-35 by Dennis Kucinich which list hard evidence showing dereliction of duty, obstruction of justice, and malfeasance by the Bush administration. Consider the revelation of the destruction in 2004 of CIA tape recordings of suspects in Guantánamo Bay which were requested by the 9/11 Commission. Consider that Arizona Congresswoman Karen Johnson, who has called attention to the research of physics professor Steven… Continue reading
For Immediate Release:
Hundreds of victim family members have been demanding answers to questions about the deaths of loved ones ever since the horrific events of September 11, 2001 – to no avail. Dozens of witnesses who offered to testify to the 9/11 Commission were ignored; many others found their testimony omitted. According to a group of Keene State College students, without a clear accounting of the facts, no reform can be effective in protecting national security. The students have organized a one-day symposium, on Saturday, May 17 — “This symposium has been put together by undergraduate student scholars — a group of young people committed to the pursuit of truth in a country that so often substitutes the comfortable life and easy paths over the rocky roads of ethical personhood,” states Donna Marsh O’Connor, mother of Vanessa Lang Langer, who died escaping the South Tower.
Keene, NH May 12, 2008 — New Hampshire College students and local activists have organized a one-day symposium, entitled, “Family Members, Researchers and Whistleblowers Speak Out”, to be held at Keene High School on Saturday, May 17 from 9:30 a.m. to 6 p.m. “This symposium has been put together by undergraduate student scholars — a group of young people committed to the pursuit of truth in a country that so often substitutes the comfortable life and easy paths over the rocky roads of ethical personhood,” says O’Connor, who along with Bob McIlvaine, who lost his son Bobby, and Michele Little, who lost her firefighter brother David, will be making presentations at the symposium.…Continue reading
by Aidan Monaghan
The following is a response from the U.S. Secret Service to a Freedom of Information Act request for the arrival time of U.S. vice president Richard Cheney at the Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC) on September 11, 2001, as well as the names of all those granted entry there that day.
Reference is made to your Freedom of InformationlPrivacy Acts requests originally received by the United States Secret Service on April 17, 2008, for information pertaining to the following:
File no. 20080330: copies of documentation pertaining to the names of persons admitted entry into the Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC) located within the White House on September 11, 2001 ;
File no. 20080331: copies of documentation which reveal the time on September 11, 2001, Vice President of the United States Richard Cheney entered the Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC) located within the White House.
A review of the Secret Service’s systems of records indicated that there are no records or documents pertaining to your requests in Secret Service files. Enclosed is a copy of your original request.
If you disagree with our determination, you have the right of administrative appeal within 35 days by writing to Freedom of Information Appeal, Deputy Director, U. S. Secret Service, Communications Center, 245 Murray Lane, SW, Building T-5, Washington, D.C. 20223. If you choose to file an administrative appeal, please explain the basis of your appeal and reference the case number listed above.
Craig W. Ulmer Special Agent In… Continue reading
We’ve thought long and hard about whether to post information about this drill, which we learned of a couple weeks ago. On the one hand, we don’t want to be Chicken Littles (and there are many out there sounding the ‘world is ending’ alarm weekly). On the other hand, we do want to relay information to our readers that is informative, educational, and useful. So we’re posting this article re. a drill currently underway, as another opportunity for us to participate in our own lives, thus promoting restoration of our Republic. The way I see it is this: Of course the government drills to test its preparation to various scenarios–they do it all the time, and the exercises don’t ‘go live’. However, those familiar with the facts of 9/11 know that multiple war games were being run that day, some of which involved responding to the very (never before imagined) scenarios that did unfold that day. It’s wise for us to be informed in order to respond to information like this. We encourage you to pick up the phone and make a few calls, particularly if you’re in Washington, Oregon, or the “National Capitol Region,” as recommended in the email posted at the end of this article. Please let us know what you hear (info [at] 911truth [dot] org). We’ll compile and post responses here. Rep. Defazio of Oregon, a member of the House Homeland Security Committee, has not been allowed to view documents pertaining to the Continuity of Government plan under which we live, as you’ve read in past articles.…Continue reading
The North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) and the United States Northern Command (NORTHCOM) have released a copy of their audio files, telephone conversations and situation room discussions, from the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.
The files are posted on this website:
The specific link is here:
9-11 audio recordings
Over 100 hours of audio recordings of various military communications channels on 9-11.
Made available in multiple mp3 files.
OPEN/DOWNLOAD THIS FILE FOR LIST OF FILES AND LINKS TO THE AUDIO FILES – [.zip files - posted 15-Apr-2008]
Copies of some of these audio files may have been available previously via peer to peer systems but this is the first time these have been posted in a readily accessible format online.
Vanity Fair did a story on these tapes a couple of years ago but only posted brief excerpts:
There’s a Keith Olbermann MSNBC piece on YouTube that relies on some of the tapes, but presents only tiny but chilling excerpts:
April 6, 2008
David Ray Griffin provides more food for thought with the release of his 5th
single-author book on the events of September the 11th… 9/11 Contradictions.
Soon, we will be seven years away from an event scorched into our collective
consciousness, (and collective unconscious), but for those of us who have taken
the time to revisit that day in our memories and in various forms of media:
audio, video, the written word… it hasn’t put seven years of distance between
us and 9/11, rather, 9/11 has become a historical event known in intimate detail
by students in a global, open-university setting.
The faculty members in this university are at a certain disadvantage. Rather
than working in a symbiotic manner with an academic establishment that is generally
supportive of the goal of education, the faculty is not allowed access to key
information which is necessary to form the curriculum, the faculty has no budget,
no tenure, and if you have a general grasp of some 9/11 issues, you can hang
a shingle on your door claiming that you are a professor in the university,
and the genuine faculty members are stuck with you until your shaky hypothesis
is thoroughly shredded by a colleague who just can’t take it anymore.
However, some of the faculty members have done quite well in this environment,
and if there is a Professor of 9/11 Studies, David Ray Griffin is it. In 9/11
Contradictions, Griffin writes to the Congress and… Continue reading
PM Book Alleges FAA Source For Statistical Data; FAA Concedes No Such Data Records Exist.
Beginning on page 22 of a Popular Mechanics 2006 book entitled Debunking 9/11
Myths, containing a forward comment by Republican presidential candidate John
McCain, an attempt is made to clarify the role played by potential military
aircraft intercepts during the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.
Citing unnamed sources, part of this section reads as follows:
When contacted by Popular Mechanics, spokesmen for NORAD and the FAA clarified
their remarks by noting that scrambles were routine, but intercepts were not
– especially over the continental United States.
However, according to a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Freedom of Information
Act response dated March 3, 2008, the FAA concedes that records for the information
alleged in part by Popular Mechanics’ unnamed FAA source, do not exist.
Thursday March 6, 2008
Steve Alten, author of “The Shell Game”, delivers 9/11 Truth to Jim
Bohanon’s CBS National Radio audience
9/11 Truth (& False Flag Terror) FINALLY on CBS NATIONAL Radio
– Jim Bohannan Show !!
by William Douglas
March 6, 2008
(See Bill’s suggested action item at end of this article, to get involved.)
STUNNING National CBS Radio Interview!
Bohannan is a right wing pro-military radio voice, who’s audience has probably
NEVER been exposed to 9/11 truth issues. “The Shell Game” author,
Steve Alten, came on after an Oil Executive’s interview, at about 39:50 in the
1.5 hour show. At about 54:56 it gets REALLY interesting when a caller calls
in to discuss 9/11 as a false flag attack. Which unleashes Alten into a deep
discussion of 9/11 truth issues.
All hell brakes loose in the next few minutes, as Alten enters the realms
of 9/11 truth, explaining to the stunned Bohanan and and his virgin (9/11 truth
issue) audience that there is a mass 9/11 truth movement in America that involves
engineers, police, private investigators, and many other experts challenging
the official 9/11 story.
Alten gives Bohannan some rope at the beginning, before he yanks it to give
Bohannan’s virgin audience some powerful new issues to chew on. Alten takes
on the BIG OIL guest (and big energy’s lies) that preceded him on the show,
as well as the rational for war in Iraq, BUT spends most of his time TAKING
ON THE 9/11 COVER UP, War… Continue reading